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Up and down for Irish at Carnoustie July 20, 2007

Posted by Rambling Man in Sports.

It’s been an up and down sort of morning for the Irish gofers at the British Open this morning. Carnoustie is a real monster !

With his second round due to start at 3.15, Paul McGinley is best placed (-4) and has seen leader Sergio Garcia come back towards the field. McGinley now lies only 1 shot behind the Spaniard. The nearest challenger to these two men in USA’s Jim Furyk at -3 having just played the 17th.

Padraig Harrington has just double bogeyed the last hole to leave him with a 73 (+2) so he’s sitting on Level par for the championship.

Darren Clarke has yet to start his second round and is currently at +1.

After a great round yesterday, today hasn’t been so kind to Rory McIllroy who, having played 16, is now at +2, having dropped 5 shots today.

Graeme McDowell is half way through his 2nd round and is at +8 – he looks like he will miss the cut as do Justin Kehoe and David Higgins who are currently at +7 and +8 respectively, although Kehoe has yet to start his 2nd round.

Good luck to them all !



1. theswissjob - July 20, 2007

I’ve been keeping a sly eye on the boys during the day. The “live scoring console” on the Open website is very good. I’ve never seen as many statistics in such a small space!

2. Rambling Man - July 20, 2007

yes its a good tool alright. one i wouldnt get away with using in work the whole time however !

3. John - July 25, 2007

Rambling Man:

Speaking about Up and Down, I can remember seeing the All Ireland Finals between County Down and Derry about a dozen years ago. I was in a local Irish bar in Philadelphia with my friend, Barney, a Tyrone man. Most of the other people in the bar were from Tyrone as well.

There was one man who apparently was from County Down. When Down scored, he stood up and yelled “Up Down.” The final time he yelled his mantra, there was a pregnant pause. In the silence that ensued, Barney’s young son yelled “Its either up or down, and it can’t be both. Make up your mind.” Obviously, most of the men watching the game knew the youngster, and they applauded vigorously. The poor man from Down was verbally beaten down by a youngster.

Barney’s dad felt so bad that he had to buy the man a drink.

4. Rambling Man - July 26, 2007

ha thats a good one john. the most common chant in the crowds at gaa matches over here would be “Up Whatever County” … just so happens, as you pointed out, that there exists a county to add a paradox to the equation !
i’m a yella-belly myself ! Up Wexford … though i don’t hold out much hope on sunday

5. John - July 26, 2007

Sorry that your from Wexford. (Only joking!) It’s difficult to see the GAA football finals in the USA since most of the people here haven’t even heard of Irish Football. It’s such an interesting and entertaining sport, I think that most of my countrymen would be up in arms if they knew what they were missing. I know that “Up _______” (fill in the blank) is a traditional chant; however, it doesn’t detract from the fact that “Up Down” simply sounds, well, simple. By the way, after the youngster basically told the Down supporter to keep his hole shut, the poor man just sat there! I’m sure that’s one of the reasons his father, Barney, bought him a couple of beers.

6. John - July 26, 2007

“your” should read “you’re” sorry.

7. John - July 26, 2007

Wexford? I don’t think you’re in it.

8. Rambling Man - July 27, 2007

we’re, as they say, a hurling county … have you been introduced to the delights of football but with sticks ? tyrone wouldn’t know one end of a hurley stick from the other – hence all the football action

9. John - July 27, 2007

Only saw a live hurling match once, about 35 years ago, when I was much younger. My cousin Brendan, who was visiting FROM Tyrone (he landed up staying here) took me to see one at Franklin Field at the University of Pennsylvania. I didn’t understand a single thing, but it was interesting. In Philadelphia, the GAA is very active, although most of it is football.

10. Rambling Man - July 27, 2007

scoring is similar but its much faster and more skillful … i’d say, all in all, football is more popular but there are some counties that just suck at hurling and therefore play football … and vice versa. football is stronger in the north and east while hurling prevails in the other areas.

11. John - July 27, 2007

Oh, I forgot to mention this. “Hurling” in American slang refers to vomiting. When one “hurls,” he’s “barfing” “puking” “up-chucking” “throwing up” etc. You get the idea. Maybe you should erase this post since it will be hard to -ahem – digest!

12. Rambling Man - July 27, 2007

boom boom !

13. John - July 27, 2007

The fact that football is popular in the north explains why its popular here in Philadelphia. Many – most actually – of the Irish in Philadelphia come from the north, and in particular, Derry, Tyrone and Donnegal.

14. Rambling Man - July 27, 2007

thats interesting … new yawk actually have a team in the All Ireland series proper … they play in the Connacht province but always get their asses kicked.

15. John - July 27, 2007

Good. I can’t stand New Yorkers, especially Yankees. (I know that Yank and Yankee are pet names you guys like to call Americans. The real Yankees are professional baseball players for New York’s American League baseball team.) My team is the Philadelphia Phillies, which competes in the National League. Unfortunately, they recently set a professional sports record here – first professional athletic team in any sport to lose 10,000 games. They had been expected to lose that game on the recent Friday the 13th, but unexpected won the game. About 50,000 fans were in attendance at the game, which was played in Philadelphia. They became angry because our team WON and began to “boo.” Several games later, they lost the fateful game to a standing ovation. Odd lot, us Phillies fans (or Phans as we say here.)

I think Philadelphia fielded a football team which competed – or tried to compete – in the All Ireland series. Don’t know too much about that, though.

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